Comments on: Follow up on “Suicide/Love”

By: mooiness

mooiness — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:09:34 +0000

ronnie: if you put it that way, then I will give that point to you. Though I still believe that before the inidividual even get to that most desperate stage, he/she has a choice to seek help.

There’s still a choice in my mind. But looks like we are never going to agree, so let’s agree to disagree.

By: Ronnie

Ronnie — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:17:16 +0000

When you differ from my comment, you are using your power of reasoning & rationality. Hence, within reasons my comments are misguided. Likewise, in the eyes of educated & rational individuals, suicide behaviour & the act itself is considered misguided.

choice is an act of will & reason…

at the point when one is at the verge on suicide, the pain is already so extreme that he will has been exhausted, & his reasoning becomes messed up…leading to emotional & irrational thought (ie. death relieves pain eternally).

hence, what i mean by suicide is not a choice.

By: Ronnie

Ronnie — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:43:05 +0000

while i agree with you that one has the choice to deal with adversities & prevent suicide. i just feel that what you are offering here is a pre-emptive/preventive measure for a person prior to suicide itself (ie. depression or victimisation). What i mean is, at the point of one’s suicide tendency, the exceedingly unbearable pain could impair & even block judgment ability & loss of rational behaviour.

It’s like when you’re utterly drunk & you start to misbehave & talk crap to people around you.

or when a wussy guy is attracted to a gorgeous girl, he develops some tendencies like becoming nervous, losing himself, etc..

although coping resources such as counselling, drugs & therapy are preventive/preemptive for a person with depression, by the time he is on the verge of suicide (like a person being intoxicated with alcohol & high on drugs) & thus suicide becomes the eternal aspirin that relieves his pain.