Why don’t Aussie girls date Asian men?

because he snagged a white woman
Got your attention? The title is taken from Sam de Brito’s post on his SMH blog “All Men Are Liars“.
With such a provocative title, his post was bound to get a load of comments. At last count, there were 425, mostly from Asian males and Anglo females as expected. It took me an hour to wade through the first 300 or so. If you want to go and read the post and the comments first, go ahead. We’ll wait for you.
The rest of you, follow me …
Let’s get a few facts out of the way to set the mood right for this post:
- Yes, I know Asian-Australians are “Aussies” too but in this context, it will mean its traditional connotation of white Anglo-Saxons. And Asian will mean “East Asian” or yellow-skinned Asians, and yes I know Asia is a big place with many different-coloured people.
- I’ve never dated an Aussie girl but I would like to. Having said that, I don’t resent the fact that it’s harder for me as an Asian guy to date a white girl, than it is for an Asian girl to date a white man.
- And generally, I don’t “aim” for Aussie, Asian or whatever. I do aim for a nice and caring person. Date the person, not the race right?
To answer the question in the title, I will explain it from my point of view. To me, there are two big aspects as to why you wouldn’t see that many Asian male and Aussie female pairings: cultural, and physical.
Cultural
As a Chinese person, I am very family-centric. My family will always come first before anyone else. This thinking guides a lot of my behaviour which some Aussies probably wouldn’t understand. And when there’s no cultural connection, it’s that much harder to make an emotional connection.
However being family-centric is also a reason why I get along with Italians and Greeks, and to a certain extent, the Irish famously. In a way, our families behave very much the same. Unfortunately, all the nice Italian/Greek/Irish girls that I’ve met were never available.
In some of the comments, Anglo girls bemoan that they would like to date an Asian guy but they never get approached by them. Again, this is a cultural thing. Aussie men are more gung-ho and more willing to stick their neck out in a bar or club situation. Make a fool of yourself? Who cares!? However, Asian men don’t want to “lose face”.
Most times I don’t approach a strange girl (any girl, not just Aussies) unless I already know her and there’s a spark. This commenter echoed my sentiments.
I’m a Korean and my girlfriend is Anglo. I would absolutely approach white girls if I got to know one in a work/educational/recreational environment, but to be honest I probably wouldn’t try to pick one up in a bar scene where I would be entering the fray with no idea what she was like, and vice versa.
Why? Well I guess due to the rarity of mixed race couples where the male is Asian and the girl is Anglo, I’ve started to assume that white girls wouldn’t be interested in me, and would bar me from the get go. As I said, if I got to know a white girl first in one of the aforementioned settings and I thought there was a bit of a spark, nothing would stop me from having a go, but I wouldn’t approach one at random in a pub.
Tofuloaf at October 17, 2006 10:40 AM
Physical
All women would like their men taller and bigger. Asian men are generally smaller and shorter, sometimes too small or too short for a typical Aussie girl. I’m 5’4″ (164cm) and 60kgs. Therefore, the pool of white women for me to potentially date is that much more limited.
No point crying about it, it’s reality. Just like how most men would prefer a woman with a curvy body, there’s nothing wrong with having physical preferences.
In the comments, there are Anglo women who proclaim that they prefer Caucasian, rather than Asian features in a man. This is the same for Asian women who’d date Anglo men exclusively. Again, it’s a preference rather than a racial thing.
There was also the obligatory mention of penis sizes in the comments. Yes we are smaller, but we can still rock the boat quite well thank you very much.
Conclusion
In general it is true that the majority of Aussie women would date within their own cultural background, but that is true for people of all other cultures in this country. One tends to stick with what one knows and feels comfortable with.

in “The Dragon”
However there are many exceptions like the sons of Bing Lee of the electronics chain in NSW, and prominent Sydney neurosurgeon Charlie Teo. In my family alone, there is one male cousin who’s only ever dated white girls, and another about to marry one.
Personally I don’t think of it along racial or cultural terms at all. It’s all highly superficial and preference-based anyway. Even if the Asian guy is as ocker as they come, that doesn’t necessarily make it easier for him to snag an Aussie girl if she prefers a white fella physically.
So no, I don’t stress too much over how come I don’t get to date a white girl. Instead, I stress over how come I don’t get to date a girl, any girl at all!
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Australia is still young but doing alright with immigration, as it is mainly a country of immigrants.
Thankyou Lulu for your article, I’ll read it when I have time.
I think Europe and France are very very different from Australia, all I can say is that they are very tolerant, but they have reach a point with a type of community that threatens the balance of society, something you would not even imagine here (nobody is talking about suburbian intifadas in Australia…)
Europe is really very different from Australia, as I said already, people are very tolerant to mix couples and asians are very well accepted in every layers of society.
Mix couples in Australia are something very new here, maybe 2 generations maximum, while in Europe you can have kids coming from 2, 3, 4 generations of mix-couples (brazilian/danish/chinese or korean/philippino/german, etc…).
I really love this kind of mix because racism becomes so irrelevant, there is no question of white, yellow any more, it is super-mix!
I live in this kind of mix community since I am a kid actually: expats, very cosmopolitan, people always traveling around…
Wow, the thread is really heating up! Like most of you, I couldn’t stop peeking at the thread once in a while. I really believe that there is no barrier to hooking up with “white chicks” anymore. At least not in my generation here in the states. I’ve been saying this all along, one ought to be able to make a case for himself anytime and anywhere. All of the talk here about Asians “this” and Asians “that” are just so lame. If you’ve got no game, you’re not getting anything–period. I love it when people overanalyze things and start spewing random theoretical thoughts. Over and over again–if you snooze, you lose! Your date isn’t going to fall from heaven into your arms. Forget about the stuff here about racial backgrounds and perceptions. And also–to all the dudes here–Never ever follow a dating advice from a girl. Enough said. For now.
Max, your last comment seems a lil contradictory as much of the advice you’ve given is exactly the same as some of the females on this blog.
Repeating, this is still one interesting son of a blog.
I wanted to kind of tweak up what i wrote before.
So I said Aussie chicks are mostly loud, rude and full on. THey’re still so, nothing’s changed
But there is a difference when it comes to who they’re talking to and where the chick is from.

So I’ll walk up to nearly anyone, and i’ll get that “stare”? The “what do you want you Lebo” stare. Mind you, i’m not Lebo either.
Now if you’re asian, you’ll get the “what do you want you Noodle softy ” stare.
So my asian brethren, don’t you fret, we’re ALL getting that “stare”
Mind you, i’ll walk into Myers or something and start a funny conversation with one of those perfume chicks, and what do you know, she’s from France or from anywhere.
This leads me to the conclusion; How much integration is integration?
Basically, I think that non wogs should also try a bit of integration
As a final thought, If a chick says “What’s the F**** up today?”, straight away, I’m thinking of Johnny, in a singlet, who runs the PUB in bushtown, hehehehehehe….
My truthful two cents worth Part II
Are you sure it’s not only with you? Because I never get that “stare”…
I always smile before I start to talk to a woman, even if she looks rude.
I don’t get the”what do you want …”, I get the “what are you laughing at, you freak…”….no just kidding. I don’t get any stare, keeping neutral. I usually get smile in return from old ladies, which makes me always very happpy…I love old ladies…especially the old chineses grumpy ones, pushing their trolleys in Surry Hills.
Med – I know arabs generaly don’t have the best reputation, i think that gives you a good oportunity to open people’s minds. I guess blondeys are often considered aussie, loud, rude & full on, which gives me a similar opportunity to open peoples minds
From what Ive seen a lot of the “racism” people talk about doesnt actualy have much to do with race. I have a close friend who’s lebanese muslim, when he knows you accept him – he’s lovely, but he cant understand why strangers often treat him badly – I see the way he is with strangers & I don’t see the mistery. I think being arab could count for a lil bit of how people treat him, but he gives it 90% responsibility when it deserves about 10. I think it seems easier to make things you cant control responsible for your problems. Some of my Arab friends think that is easy for me to say, being white & blonde, but i think blondes & aussie looking people would get teased & stereo typed as much as arabs & asians, google lebbo jokes & then google blonde jokes & see how many you can find that are the same.
Kim – I agree with smiling; it is very hard for someone to be rude to you if you look in their eyes with a smile in yours
Haven’t posted here in a while!
Sorry guys!
It’s as interesting as ever though.
MED, I’m sure many don’t get that ‘stare’. No offense, but you should think, are you a little too self-conscious? Hey, they might be checking you out
On another note, I’ve learnt to be more ‘open’ and go back to my roots back in primary school!- I find that really, it isn’t that hard to spark a friendship/bond with someone out of your race, although it is very much harder and a nerve racking if they’re gorgeous. So being more open, which is usually not common as an Asian (guess it’s a trait) will get you somewhere.
Totally agree with both of you Kim and Lulu, having someone smile at you and finding your face lighting up and smiling back (or vice versa) just creates a connection that makes you feel bliss
The only place where Asian/White couples fit in seamlessly is not in Australia but in the North America, particularly Hawaii/California for the US or Vancouver/Toronto for Canada. Australia is still like the American south or midwest where yes, it’s ok for a white guy to date an Asian lady but not vice versa.
Somewhat true Randy, I totally agree on Canada though, but other than that, I don’t. When you’re trying to imply AMWF relationships are not ‘accepted’ in Australia, that’s not true at all.
Anyway, here’s a video of a cute AMWF couple you might enjoy watching
I’m an Asian guy and I’ve had white girlfriends and so has my friends. You know I think a lot of it is mostly in our heads. There’s so many Asian guys who go around thinking that a white girl won’t have him and they have these limiting beliefs even before they go over and just say hi. So guys just react in two ways. The first way is to just resign to that thinking and never approaching (and staying dateless) and the other reaction is to get angry about it and it shows when they talk to white women – like they have something to prove.
I mean, some of it is definitely also about how the media has portrayed Asian males as either Kung Fu masters with heavy Chinese accents or geek, computer nerd types and it’s inexcusable really, but how you react to that is entirely up to you.
In the end, women are attracted to confident men and if you are comfortable with who you are, then it’s going to show and you will be attractive to women. I worked hard on getting over my negative thinking. I also took the advice of some Asian guys who were very succesful with white women. I made friends with them and went out with them. I also bought a product called Asian Dating Superstars (http://asiandatingsuperstars.org), that was really good at motivating me. My current girlfriend is Chinese, but it’s not because I couldn’t date white women, she is just a great girl!
im malaysian and my gf is australian , so yeah
Good on you Deen. I am a Malaysian also. Perhaps I am looking at wrong places or maybe the wrong group of people but congrats mate! Bagus!
Hey guys I’m back and just wanted to wish you all a happy new year!
Now to the more interesting stuff
I realise now, that nationality has NOTHING, ZILCH, CRAP ALL to do with who you’re dating.
So why did I say it was hard for Caucasian and Asians to date? Simply because I was so timid and shy that I didn’t let anyone have a go with me, I didn’t even make eye contact with girls.
After going out A LOT with girls, it came to me that, really, if you present yourself (nicely of course) you’ll get anyone despite race.
I met this stunning, beautiful Caucasian girl and we just clicked, the best thing is, she’s no slut, she is sooo caring. After just one day of meeting, we’re both madly in love, and this is the first ever girl I’ve been in love with and same with her. If you seen what happen the first day we meet, it’s like something out of a novel or movie – just simply a magical romantic tale.
What I’m trying to say guys, spruce yourself up, look nice and go out with friends, make friends and go out with them, and see if you click with any. Love has no restrictions, racial restrictions are just IN YOUR MIND, I thought that girls really didn’t like Asians before when I was so single-minded with girls, but that isn’t the case, it all comes down on YOU, not your race.
Best of luck guys and girls!
well said Andrew
Dude you’ve got issues. You are a reverse racist!
Can I ask the person who runs this forum to ask the person above called “Kim” to change his name. I don’t want to be responsible for what he says just because he signed under my name.
Kim, the original.
I am a Deaf Asian guy. Regardless of race or disability, some girls will like you and some girls won’t like you. If she likes you and you like her, good. A girl is a girl and just a girl.
After traveling around Europe, I have to agree with some earlier posts that giving a girl compliments (no matter what race) isn’t received the same way in Oz.
Generally here, defense mechanisms and castle walls spark up, serious, even though I have no intention of trying to pick up.
That or I look real sleazy when giving compliments without noticing
Wow?!
Asian guys don’t think that Aussie girls don’t like them. I am fairly young, but know that I prefer Asian men, I just find it hard to find one, because they don’t seem to show interest. I do receive attention from Asian men on the occasion, but mostly Anglo, which is not really what I want haha. It’s going to be a hard journey finding an Asian man, but a fun journey
I think there could be as well a big misunderstanding coming from each side, mis-understanding of body langage and cultural differences:
For an OZ girl, being cold and hiding her emotions is a polite and very anglo-saxon way of displaying proper manners in front of a stranger.
For most of asian boys smiling means embarrassment…
I have a tendency to see that as well between Frenchs, Italians and English people. As a French born asian, I know that French girls have a tendency to display a neutral smile as a way of cortesy in front of a stranger, and would not hesitate to politly decline any offer with a courteous burt firm smile as well. The protestant, and puritan anglo-saxon approach, requires, in general people to display as few emotions as possible in front of strangers…
Personnaly I tend to see more mix couple than ever…and more mix babies as well in Sydney, especially in the Eastern Suburbs and the City.
Hey Rebekah, where are you based in Aus? I am based in Perth and I find the Aussie women in Perth are being ignorance towards mix relationships. They refuse to acknowledge the facts and tend to always prefer a white men even though he’s being a d***head rather than being a real gentleman where else Asian men are more loyal and treat a women properly compared to the white men. No I am not saying white men are terrible but in most cases, it happens.
@ Krim
“Australia is still new to this”. That’s untrue!
My Nanna’s brother married a Chinese Lady in Darwin!
But, then, I don’t think Anglo-Asian relationships are so uncommon in the North.
Hmm I think short guys are considered less desirable no matter the race. Saying that, I’ve met some reaally tall Chinese Guys and some shorter guys who’ve found cute girls!
I’m an Anglo Aussie dating a Japanese Guy. I think the most important part is def not being shy!
If my boyfriend hadn’t of been so aggressive in trying to date me then we wouldn’t have ended up dating me. I politely rejected him a LOT before I agreed to date him. He wasn’t finding it difficult because he’s Asian, but more because, as a conservative personality type, I don’t want to agree to date someone unless I’m sure that I want to be with this person more than everyone else, that this person is most important to me and that our relationship has the potential to become something long term if we wanted. I’ve rejected a LOT of non-Asian guys and didn’t end up dating them too and that’s pretty normal with girls, I think. So, yeah, keep trying even if there are rejections!
Also, it’s important that I’ve known them for enough time to feel that I understand and care for them as a person. The more I got to know about my boyfriend before we dated, the closer I started to feel to him. He sent cute text messages like ‘Good Morning’ and ‘Good Night’, so I felt as though he cared, and he had a really good sense of humour, so that I enjoyed talking to him and I started getting excited when receiving his texts and talking to him as soon as we met. I want to know I’m going to feel comfortable and safe alone with a guy for a certain period of time, so I felt more like I could trust him with that as we became better friends. It’s easier if you ask the girl you’re interested in if she’d like to hang out with you and some of your friends and some of her friends on the weekend?
Mateship in Australia is pretty important, so somewhat if our friends are compatible or guy with our friends are compatible then it makes the relationship more attractive.
After that, it’s luck. The day I agreed I was in a very good mood…
Wow, that seems like a lot of work…!!
I wrote that about getting in a dating relationship, not a fling btw…
Anyway, best of lucky
Hope you can find someone special!
I guess if a guy is active and make the first moves,regardless of races,he will finally get one.If not,he/she will be single,because I have not seen a comment from female sayign that they will make the first move,especially if your crush is of diffent races.
I agree that race is not really important,as long as she/he is caring and nice,who cares..
Now,I am wondering is there a large proportions of aussie girls who are actually interested in asian men as according to what budgie said.May be I really need to take my gut to hit on some white women as I sometimes get some signals from them..:)
Hey, I’m a white brunette Aussie girl and I have ALWAYS been interested in Asian guys. I’m quite nerdy myself, and there’s just something intriguing about them. The deep brown eyes and year-round tan thing is a big help too. Height isn’t an issue for me because I’m lucky enough to be in the very average category at 5’5″ tall.
There was another girl that posted here that said most Aussie girls who are interested in Asian guys don’t make a move because we think you wouldn’t be interested in a non-Asian girl. It’s very true. Admit it. For one reason or another Asians DO segregate themselves. Also I think Asian women are absolutely beautiful, especially Japanese and Koreans. I’d do anything to have slimmer hips like they do. So I feel kinda fat when compared to other Asian girls my age. We just think you wouldn’t be interested in us white girls.
If you are looking to pick up a white girl in a club, most girls there are trashy-as, and they would be the type of girl that you’d want to take home to mum, anyway.
Very important.
Since, like it or not, it’s the guy’s position to make the first move in the Australian culture, so the question should be: why aren’t more Asian guys asking out Aussie women?
I’d like to also add that I’d be more inclined to start chatting to some random Asian guy, but without hearing them speak, it’s really hard to tell who is an Asian-Australian and who is an international student.
Rachel
So you will only date Aussie-asian and not asian foreigners or Asian students? Not even Asian born who is currently living here? Only Aussie born Asian? Wow. I see…
Rachel:It is indeed quite easy to tell who is borned here and who is from overseas.And as you said you are more inclined to talk to them,you may also ask them directly rather than guessing,indeed you will know once they start talking.
And I can tell you most Asians guys have interest on white girls but just do not express this.We just check you out when you do not realize that:P
Desmond – No, don’t get me wrong. I didn’t mean that at all. I meant, I’m more hesitant to approach a random Asian guy if I’m not sure if he’s an international student, because there could be an embarrassing language barrier. I’d love to date an Asian international student if they were from Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, places where I know language would be no problem to get to know one another because they speak English there too. I haven’t really thought about language barriers in terms of non-English speaking Asian students, but, like any student, Asian or not, where they are ESL, it would make the relationship harder if we couldn’t communicate as well. But mostly my comment was directed towards the initial approaching each other stage where I could start chatting to them, but I’d be embarrassed if they responded with a confused look on their face!
Having said that, it is a bit easier to tell who is an international student and who isn’t by the fashion that they wear.
So in answer to your question, I’d date an Aussie-born Asian, Asian who is living here, or an international student if language wasn’t an issue, but that can be overcome. So all 3. The only issue with the latter would be how a long-distance relationship would work and how long they had until they finished their degree etc.
Ron – how do I tell who is an international student, and who is an ABA without talking to them? Any tips?
And is it really true that Asians think that white girls are cute? Why do they never make a move, then???
Honestly the message I’ve always gotten is they are only interested in other Asians (perhaps from parental pressure, and also peiple generally date who they hang around, and Asians hang around other Asians.) Ha ha. checking me out on the sly – I love it!
Rachel-1.Body size-ABC tend to be bigger in size and overseas people tend to be thin
2-Fashion-T shirts or shoes,there are some fashions that cannot be bought in Australia.
3-Outlook-not sure how to explain,but just like I can tell the background of Caucasian sometimes.May be you will knwo what i mean if you make more observations and check out more Asians:P
If you mean the message you get is from your feeling,or from other media,I can tell you it is not true.
THere are always beautiful people in every races,but one thing is sure,that is Asian always think some white girls are cute,for me,not only they are beautiful,and their personalities are also good.We do not make the first move because of many reasons,may be cultural differences and we are not really sure whether you want to make friends with Asians or not.
I was an international student before but I am still living here after I graduate,there may not be big problem in language but cultural difference as we are not borned here anyway.We assume only people who understand or appreciate our cultures want to make friends with us.
And,seriously,Asians do things in a low profile way,and check white girls out without lettign you know,not like the aussie guys who check you out in front of you and drop you some pick up lines.May be you can try to make more observations to see whether some Asian guys are hidden somewhere checking you out:P
Thanks for the insight, Ron. A lot of what you said is true. I noticed that in Adelaide anyway, a lot of the international students LOVE to wear plaid pattern tops, both girls and guys. And they are very keen on the “student look”, whether ABA tend to dress up more so, and shop more what is in fashion in Australia, rather than their home country. I love Japanese ad Korean fashions, so it makes it easier to tell, but only with the girls.
But thanks a lot for the reassurance that Asian guys ARE interested in white girls, or non-Asian girls, at least. I think my theory comes from my personal observances that Asians hang around other Asians, and therefore, you date your friends or friends of friends so there are not that many inter-racial couple around. I honestly think that because behaviour correlates with attitude, if no Asians are making a move on me, then they can’t be interested. And it’s true that I feel like a fat cow when compared to your Asian girl friends because they are sooo slim. (Not that I’m not slim too, but I will always have curves because I’m European.)
To any Asian males: do you still feel the pressure to date within your own “race” from your parents, or even your peers? Does your mum infer that you should settle down with a nice Chinese/Viet/Filipino girl? Does that affect who you date?
One of the explanations between the discrepancies between AFWM and AMWF couples is that white Australians are more persistant and aggressive at pursuing ANY girl, so when they set their sights on a cute Asian, it’s easier for them to win a date.
btw, what city are you living in at the moment? What country are you originally from, Don?
* I meant their parents/grandparents home country, sorry.
Hi,Rachel.Personally I will not have problems from my parents as it is you but your family having the relationship.If you can have a happy relationship with someone,I think your family will be happy,and having raltionship does not mean getting maaried,so I guess there is no need to worry too much about parents/ gradparents at the early stage.
Sometimes I think white gilrs are always nice to other people,so even thye talk to me does not mean having interested on us.Will you smile to strangers and talk to them??Umm,,may be we think too much,we have no loss talking on stangers anyway..That is why aussie guys can make friends or girlsfriends easily because they are more opened to new chances,just like what you said,but it is difference between asian and aussie culture.
White girls always think they are fatter than Asian girls,in fact it is becasue white girls are more curveaous.That is why they looks bigger than Asian girls.If a guy tells you he does not like curveious girls,he must be lying:P.Curveous white girls can look very beautiful even with simple costumes.:)
And one more reason why I like White girls is because they are very nice to people and it will be easier to make them happy.The asian girls I know are very materialistic.
I am living in Sydney now and I came from Hong Kong.
Honestly,I am attracted by brunettes physically and I always check them out.*shy*TO me,they are cute cows:P.>But I have wasted a couples of chances meeting them beasue I am shy.
So if you are really interested on an Asian guy,what signals will you give him to let him make the first move if he will..?
cute cows – lol!
Yes, Asian girls can be materialistic, but this comes from status being an important factor when considering who to be in a relationship with. But many western girls are materialistic, too.
Personally, if I see any guy I like, Asian or not, I stare. But the general signs could be staring at you, smiling, laughing at your jokes all of the usual stuff.
And just see white girls as every other girl. We really aren’t all that wonderful and mysterious underneath. Try to talk to as many people as you can, including white girls, if that’s what you want, especially as you’re only studying here.
I realized white girls are really willing to talk to anyone,no matter they are interested to you or not.As from my observations,white grils always respond to stangers or even start a meaningful conversation at the end.
It will be easier in the university, but I am not studying anymore.Although it is not the cuture that asians talk to strangers,may be it is the time to change a bit to talk to as many people as I can,may be i will get something surprising.
Not sure why I always notice that some white girls look at me,may be it is because I look at them in the first place and they just give me a response,not meaning anything..But sometimes,it looks like they are shy when staring at me.
Hi,
I started a “Asian men and white / latin women” social networking Website. The world is mixing everyday and it is time to ‘demcoratise love’ lol.
http://asianwhite.socialgo.com/
I just felt that this is something I had to do. Answering to my calling I guess.
You may create groups/events, blog, post videos, etc. on this site. I hope to bring together a diverse group of people – singles, mixed couples who are in a relationship or married.
With your help, we’re going to change the world with small baby steps. There will be a lot of good coming out of this.
Happy to hear your thoughts.
Cheers,
Brandon Wong
@ Kim. Please don’t compare Australia to Britain. There is nothing more annoying to Australia as being called a backwards country despite that 4 or 5 generations of Australians have been trying to be tolerant about it. I’ve only met two people in Australia who wouldn’t date outside their race. One was a not attractive Australian bloke and the other was a girl with BRITISH parents who said they’ve be ashamed of her if she dated outside her race. So, there!
I grew up in a public highschool in Australia where interacial dating was completely the norm. There can be a very conservative style of dating in Australia which means it can be difficult to get in a serious relationship quickly…but it’s not based on race. Many women are brought up with cultural tendencies of getting to trust and know the other person (basically love them) before dating them. This may be frustrating. But, the choice tends to vary between a short fling and getting to know the person for a serious relationship.
I am a white male born in the UK but raised in Oz for 25 years. If you want to date a white Australian girl first off approach one with a culturally diverse group of friends. There are really two groups of anglo australias – open minded well travelled ones and bogans “aussie rednecks” who only associate with other bogans and who are hostile to people who are not bogans or people of a different race/ethnicity. Italian/Greek not anglo Australians who are of European ancestory are probalby more inclined to go out with an asian male and it should not be too hard to date an open minded aussie girl but there are alot of ignorant bogans in Australia and they will be sick at the sight of you. I have spend alot of time with open minded Aussies and bogans and bogans are not nice to Asians or anyone including other aussies who are not bogans.
I’m a blond white Aussie women,I have no interest in Asian men—mainly cause I’m attracted to bigger man and fatter build man compared to what Asian man have—slimmer build.
I do have a great great great great great father that was fully asian that married a white lady (my great great great great great grand mother)
My mothers cousin’s daughter married an Asian guy but unfortunately the marriage broke up after 11 months.
My point:
Some white women do like to date Asian men and some white women do not wish to date Asian men.
Just the way it is,that’s life.
For me,i’d love to date a Italian man. A real Italian man with Italian heritage but most Italians do wish to stick with there own kind—but that is life and that’s just the way it is.
quote:
“There is no racial tension like in Europe, where after 20 years of brainwashing and denial , people realize there is a racism against white people…”
Agreed! there is racism against whites in Europe but not from European Asians,not from European Muslims,Not from European Africans—-but from our own European governments!
Rod is right. Australia is at least 20 years behind US and UK in terms of race relations. There is tension even amongst themselves – those from different European heritage and I can understand why Italians or Italian Australians stick with their own kind (same with other ethnicities here too).
I would go as far as saying that if you want to date interracially, get out of Australia! Here is why, they’re hostile to you and really up themselves. Cultural put-downs are a norm unless they can eat your food.
Seriously, when you go to Europe and US you will find less hostility and they’re more open-minded. Esp. Spanish since they’re a very mixed bunch.
Most Aussies are into sports and they’re in sales and HR fields. Basically jobs that allow them to BS and get a paycheck so they can drink more alcohol and watch more sports.
Watch what you ask for. Even if some of white girls look good in their 20s. They’re way too divorce-driven and boganistic. Most are avarage-looking but are so up themselves. Why? They oppress other races in many covert ways to make themselves feel superior. I’d take a gorgeous Latin American any day.
Wow Jason, racism comes in many forms doesn’t it. Of course pigeon-holing a whole country of people based off probably a very limited and bitter experience (I am guessing) comes easily when you feel that you are the minority. I am Australian, white, 30 and have dated a few Asian men (and am currently doing so). Most of my friends are in or have been in interracial relationships. In any of the cities, no one would even notice. I have also travelled a lot, including the US, UK and Asia (funnily enough the most racism I have seen so far against asians is actually Japan – go figure) and whilst I can definitely agree that there is some terrible red neck attitudes in parts of Australia, it is not by any means the majority nor the normal. Perhaps you have only experienced what we here class as bogans? That would be the same as me classing all Americans based off only meeting people who grew up in a trailer. I love other cultures but so far, Australia has been the only country, including the US and UK, where I can walk hand in hand with my Asian boyfriend and not have anyone look twice. Diversity is actually the normal, unfortunately, as with all communities, the loudest and most abrasive voices are the ones who others will take as the average. There is an old saying about people in glass houses not throwing stones.
Jason quote:
‘Watch what you ask for. Even if some of white girls look good in their 20s. They’re way too divorce-driven and boganistic. Most are avarage-looking but are so up themselves. Why? They oppress other races in many covert ways to make themselves feel superior. I’d take a gorgeous Latin American any day.’
Just because I said I would rather date an Italian,that does not mean I put my own men down,shame on you,for putting white girls down.I am fascinated by Italian men ,that does not mean I declare war on my own nationality of men.If happened, a good looking charming white bloke came along and fancy me, I would gladly give this relationship a go (anyhow,these days,white people are just as dark as others,you can’t really tell who is who)
I think the Asian man that started this thread should give Asian girls a chance,shame on him.
How I see this thread,the men are bagging there own women!
One Asian man quoted this:
quote:
I do not wish to date Asian women cause they all look like my sisters and I am not attracted to Asian women….I am more attracted to white women’ (this was in my own words,could not locate the where bouts of this quote)
quoted by Jason: (I am guessing you are white guy,if not,I am sorry)
‘Watch what you ask for. Even if some of white girls look good in their 20s. They’re way too divorce-driven and boganistic. Most are avarage-looking but are so up themselves. Why? They oppress other races in many covert ways to make themselves feel superior. I’d take a gorgeous Latin American any day.’
Why do men bag there own nationality of women? or should i say, too stay on topic…why do Asian men bag there own nationality of women?
Budgie,
You’re one of the unique ones in Australia who has an open-mind. By that I mean many Aussies don’t even know they’re inherently racist. It takes a person from minority race to sense that because we EXPERIENCE it. It is easy for someone who looks white to say everything is a fair go.
Let me elaborate on ‘covert racism’. There is a serious imbalance in the number of white guys dating Asian girls vs Asian guys dating white girls. I’ve actually here a Filipina girl said “Filipino guys bla bla bla” as an excuse to date white guys and BE SOCIALLY ACCEPTED. Why you ask. Because white Aussies have an inferiority complex and they have no respect for other races. So they oppress other races in the corporate world and socially outside. When was the last time you see ethnic minorities in upper management?
aussiess, you kidding me? The last time I checked 90% of Asians guys date Asian girls. It is Asian girls who want to be SOCIALLY ACCEPTED who wants to date white guys.. regardless how incompatible their personalities are as I’ve observed.
All this is a result of racism. In Australia, a white girl will go for white guy because the racist media perpertrated by racist majority would make the minorities look bad.
Do you think only bogans treat us bad? Visit Eastern suburbs and Mosman in Sydney.
I’ve no problem saying this because I could not stand this fake country.
Wow Jason, relax!!! Budgie was very clear, polite and actually very nice and true. From my own experience, there’s a lot of nice and intelligent white women in Australia… You can’t just judge people like you do, it doesn’t make sense because people change with time and this country is changing fast!!!
Behave like a gentleman, and you will see the difference.
Yes Jason, I actually agree with you on one point – there is definitely racism in Australia. White to Asian, Asian to white, Asian to Asian, everyone to Aboriginal, Lebanese, etc etc. I did not mean to say otherwise – what I am saying is that racism, in many forms, is everywhere, and that the loud voices, the ‘bogan ones’, wherever they live, seem to be the racist ones, so it gives the impression that it is a general view when it isn’t. I am not making excuses for racism in Australia, or anywhere for that matter, I have seen it just as everyone has where they are from. And not just racism, but all prejudices. And it comes from all angles, this worldwide debilitating mindset – I was dating a wonderful guy but we had to separate because his family (yes, we were both in Australia) could not accept that I was not Asian. See, many forms. And yes, I am white, so it would be assumed that I have not experienced being a minority, nor racism first hand. But I have – I am currently living in Japan – in a town where I am one of less than 10 non-asians, and trust me, I do know first hand about racism. I feel it everyday. In fact, if I were king (queen) of the world, I would make every adult spend 1 year in a country of a completely different culture so that everyone experiences minority. In all my travels I have seen it, everywhere I go – but, it does not make me think less of each culture because of it. I do not think less of Japan, nor it’s amazing people, because I do experience both racism and sexism right here every single day, because to blame an entire culture would in turn make me racist… What I am trying to say is that individuals are racist, not an entire country. To claim that ‘Australia’ is racist, is to say that everyone in Australia thinks the same, is prejudiced in itself. I understand why you feel the way you do – trust me, I actually do – and it is exactly those feelings of hurt and anger and bitterness which fuel the fire. Bad feelings beget bad feelings, so on and so forth.
In every country you will find areas and people who are open minded, and those which are not. It is up to each individual to consciously choose not to become exactly what they don’t like.
Very nice answer Budgie. I am really sorry about the story with your fiance. What you experienced was a tribal decision, if you were asian, it could be because you are from different social class, different region or whatever…It happens all the time, (Romeo and Juliet)..
As for Bogans, you have to realize that the color of their skin and maybe their superstitions, their tribal codes or religions are the only things they can still cling on, the rest is so miserable…
And we have to admit, when new immigrants come, they are the ones that have to make room, not the upper class or the guys from Mosman.
There is a danger in trying to generalize ideas about racism. Starting as a caricature, as a simplification of the other, it can become an ideology. We all know what it gave, but we rarely notice what ANTI-RACISM has become. In Europe and the US, Anti-racism has become an ideology for any kind of excuse, creating differentiation where people would have common ground.
Like this page, on this blog, raising an issue concerning racism, for an anti-racism purpose (love), but creating more bitterness and verbal diarrhea of anger.
I have a tendency to think as well that racism is everywhere, like anti-racism, but it still should be at an individual level, a case to case situation. When racism and anti-racism become political ideologies, they become weapons of social discrimination, tools for enslaving the minds. Let’s not forget that two of the most advance cultures in the world (Japan and Germany) embraced racism as ideology for mass slaughtering people not a long time ago…and an entire continent (Europe) is blind by anti-racism allowing Islamo-fascism to infringe the condition of women and gays, in front of impotent feminists, and gay activists.
I’m an asian male living in the U.S. and one of the reasons there are more white men dating asian women is because of the military. White men who are stationed oversees will date and marry asian women. White women on the other hand are not interested in asian men (and vice versa) because of many societal discrimination against the pairing. White women are considered the forbidden fruit, like she represents mother earth from her culture. Other problems like difference in culture is BS I think. So what if the asian male speaks with a foreign accent, what does that matter? American entertainment industry seems to perpetuate this and I am tired of seeing only stereotypes in American pop culture like Long Duk Dong, William Hung, Mr. Yunioshi, the asexual asian man in The Hangovers. THERE WAS NOT ONE SINGLE ASIAN MAN IN SEX AND THE CITY other than a gay asian man which I thought was not fair considering the show is about RELATIONSHIPS AND SEX. The only asian men you see are martial art experts like Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Rain (though he’s not a martial artist) Mr. Miyagi (was not a martial artist), Jason Scot Lee (not a martial artist either). Not to keep ranting, but I just get tired of seeing asian women with white men not because of racism, but that’s all you see. You see the paring in American movies and TV commercials too. When are western societies going to allow for asian man to date white women?
Another whinger…
What about Ando Masahashi in Heroes?
Lee Takkam in Tomorrow, When the War Began?
Mr. Saito in Inception?
Kenny Style, in all his porns?
Daniel Henney as Dr. David Lee in Three Rivers?
Few questions to Ken:
-Why do you care so much about Hollywood and TV?
-Do entertainment (the industry of emptying people’s mind) define who you are as an American Asian?
-Why do you need Western Societies or what ever society’s approval to date anyone?
From Sydney Morning Herald’s article:
http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-news/our-beauty-is-only-skin-deep-20101013-16k44.html?autostart=1
AUSTRALIA is viewed as the ‘dumb blonde’ of the world, attractive but shallow and unintelligent
And scroll down and see the votes by fellow Australians.. what do they think?
The Poll: “Do you agree that Australia is seen abroad as attractive but shallow and unintelligent?”
As voted by 16095 people:
- 76% says YES
- 24% says NO