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		<title>By: mooiness</title>
		<link>http://mooiness.com/2007/05/18/newbies-running-an-internet-business/comment-page-1/#comment-25489</link>
		<dc:creator>mooiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 13:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BigZapher: nice one, brutha! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BigZapher: nice one, brutha! <img src='http://mooiness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BigZapfer</title>
		<link>http://mooiness.com/2007/05/18/newbies-running-an-internet-business/comment-page-1/#comment-25485</link>
		<dc:creator>BigZapfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 12:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Designer: Hi, I’am the graphic designer here, I’ll be making your website, I’ve made a few of them so you should listen to me and my experience, it well make things easier for every one. 

Client: You don’t know what your doing, I know everything. Make some thing that looks good but do it really fast, like in 5 mins

Designer: Right, I’ll just get a quick brief off you then.

Client: Can’t be assed, make something that’s exactly what I want but you’ll have to sort it out yourself because I can’t be bothered to give you five minutes, for a proper brief.

Designer: Can I at least get a logo.

Client: Can’t you just copy it or draw it yourself ?….

(After the first design)

Designer: I think that’s want you need, based on my experience and research of your company.

Client: That’s crap, I don’t like it for no real reason other then you got it right the first time, so quickly, which means I didn’t get my money worth. I also don’t have anything constructive to add but do some more designs and I look at them when I feel like it.

(Several designs later)

Client: hmm, I think I like the design I came up with in the first place, your new stuff is no good, use what I made originally.

Designer: Could you come a bit closer….. (hudoken-upper cuts client)

:) Admitadly most clients where pretty good, although there where some that I would like to get my hands on 

Later man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Designer: Hi, I’am the graphic designer here, I’ll be making your website, I’ve made a few of them so you should listen to me and my experience, it well make things easier for every one. </p>
<p>Client: You don’t know what your doing, I know everything. Make some thing that looks good but do it really fast, like in 5 mins</p>
<p>Designer: Right, I’ll just get a quick brief off you then.</p>
<p>Client: Can’t be assed, make something that’s exactly what I want but you’ll have to sort it out yourself because I can’t be bothered to give you five minutes, for a proper brief.</p>
<p>Designer: Can I at least get a logo.</p>
<p>Client: Can’t you just copy it or draw it yourself ?….</p>
<p>(After the first design)</p>
<p>Designer: I think that’s want you need, based on my experience and research of your company.</p>
<p>Client: That’s crap, I don’t like it for no real reason other then you got it right the first time, so quickly, which means I didn’t get my money worth. I also don’t have anything constructive to add but do some more designs and I look at them when I feel like it.</p>
<p>(Several designs later)</p>
<p>Client: hmm, I think I like the design I came up with in the first place, your new stuff is no good, use what I made originally.</p>
<p>Designer: Could you come a bit closer….. (hudoken-upper cuts client)</p>
<p> <img src='http://mooiness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Admitadly most clients where pretty good, although there where some that I would like to get my hands on </p>
<p>Later man.</p>
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		<title>By: mooiness</title>
		<link>http://mooiness.com/2007/05/18/newbies-running-an-internet-business/comment-page-1/#comment-25370</link>
		<dc:creator>mooiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 10:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dreymer: hahah monkey tail!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dreymer: hahah monkey tail!</p>
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		<title>By: dreymer</title>
		<link>http://mooiness.com/2007/05/18/newbies-running-an-internet-business/comment-page-1/#comment-25367</link>
		<dc:creator>dreymer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 10:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL.

Reminds me of my dad when he first got his email.

Friend: So what&#039;s your email?
Dad: It&#039;s C-K-S.... umm.. monkeytail hotmail dot com.
Friend: Monkeytail?
Dad: Yeah, it&#039;s that funny curly sign thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL.</p>
<p>Reminds me of my dad when he first got his email.</p>
<p>Friend: So what&#8217;s your email?<br />
Dad: It&#8217;s C-K-S&#8230;. umm.. monkeytail hotmail dot com.<br />
Friend: Monkeytail?<br />
Dad: Yeah, it&#8217;s that funny curly sign thing</p>
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		<title>By: mooiness</title>
		<link>http://mooiness.com/2007/05/18/newbies-running-an-internet-business/comment-page-1/#comment-25332</link>
		<dc:creator>mooiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 13:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick: oh I have a bad personal experience with Smartyhost too and yet they remain in business. Like any industry, unfortunately there are bad eggs in the IT industry too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick: oh I have a bad personal experience with Smartyhost too and yet they remain in business. Like any industry, unfortunately there are bad eggs in the IT industry too.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 13:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand though, we (me and the Mrs) have had some amazing....stunningly woeful experiences with webhosts.  Ipowerweb (who deleted 2 years of work and then chastised us for not having an &quot;index.html&quot; page when we asked where did our stuff go), Smartyhost (rude ignorant and a total waste of money.  I for one want a host that is open on weekends.  It was not unusual for them to have a site failure on a Saturday and not have it fixed until Monday),and Acehost, (we offer the sun moon and planets....why are you not happy with this handful of dirt?) spring to mind.  I don&#039;t think there is a helpful or even intelligent being between the three of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand though, we (me and the Mrs) have had some amazing&#8230;.stunningly woeful experiences with webhosts.  Ipowerweb (who deleted 2 years of work and then chastised us for not having an &#8220;index.html&#8221; page when we asked where did our stuff go), Smartyhost (rude ignorant and a total waste of money.  I for one want a host that is open on weekends.  It was not unusual for them to have a site failure on a Saturday and not have it fixed until Monday),and Acehost, (we offer the sun moon and planets&#8230;.why are you not happy with this handful of dirt?) spring to mind.  I don&#8217;t think there is a helpful or even intelligent being between the three of them.</p>
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		<title>By: mooiness</title>
		<link>http://mooiness.com/2007/05/18/newbies-running-an-internet-business/comment-page-1/#comment-25321</link>
		<dc:creator>mooiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 07:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rn: exactly and they are the worst to deal with because you are trying to help them but they can&#039;t be arsed themselves.

indra: it&#039;s up above, #11.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rn: exactly and they are the worst to deal with because you are trying to help them but they can&#8217;t be arsed themselves.</p>
<p>indra: it&#8217;s up above, #11.</p>
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		<title>By: Indra</title>
		<link>http://mooiness.com/2007/05/18/newbies-running-an-internet-business/comment-page-1/#comment-25323</link>
		<dc:creator>Indra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 07:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm.. I was sure I posted a comment after my first one.. did it got marked as spam? I didn&#039;t recall typin anything that can be marked as spam..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm.. I was sure I posted a comment after my first one.. did it got marked as spam? I didn&#8217;t recall typin anything that can be marked as spam..</p>
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		<title>By: rn</title>
		<link>http://mooiness.com/2007/05/18/newbies-running-an-internet-business/comment-page-1/#comment-25319</link>
		<dc:creator>rn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 06:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my favourite ones are no 2 and 3 - the &quot;I&#039;ve built it, so why no response&quot; and the &quot;too hard but lazy&quot;... when I talk to these kind of people, it&#039;s not that they are IT idiots. They are just idiots... and they manage to blame others for everything! haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my favourite ones are no 2 and 3 &#8211; the &#8220;I&#8217;ve built it, so why no response&#8221; and the &#8220;too hard but lazy&#8221;&#8230; when I talk to these kind of people, it&#8217;s not that they are IT idiots. They are just idiots&#8230; and they manage to blame others for everything! haha</p>
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		<title>By: mooiness</title>
		<link>http://mooiness.com/2007/05/18/newbies-running-an-internet-business/comment-page-1/#comment-25317</link>
		<dc:creator>mooiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 04:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indra: that&#039;s very well-trained indeed, especially your mum!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indra: that&#8217;s very well-trained indeed, especially your mum!</p>
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