Asking for links is like asking, “Will you be my friend?”
In one episode of “Extras“, Ricky Gervais’ character Andy is trying to avoid hanging out with a fellow extra who is very boring. But the other guy can’t take the hint and kept on pestering Andy, until Andy finally told him off in a very funny scene, “Look! I just don’t like you ok?!”
Asking for links is a bit like that. If you have to ask for it, don’t be surprised if the result isn’t favourable. It might even annoy the other blogger if you persist and ask, “Why not?” This is something which Steph has mentioned before:
The other thing that’s pissing me off is the whole blogroll drama. My blogroll is not static. It changes regularly as I find new blogs or move on from others and I don’t do link exchanges.
I’ve been de-linked and had “regular” commentaters leave, what’s the big deal?
I don’t get it. If you really must email me about this or make a snide comment on your blog about it, go ahead. I hope it makes you feel better.
So if you shouldn’t ask for it, how do you get people to link to you? In my experience, there’s only three good ways to go about it: leaving compelling comments on other blogs, be generous with the link love and writing good content.
Leave Compelling Comments
Lilian, a Malaysian pro-blogger wrote in a post about “how to increase traffic“:
You see, in order for people to like you, you have to show a sincere interest first. Otherwise, no one is going to visit.
We cannot rely on people visiting us. We have to visit them. Unless you are some Hollywood celebrities(sic).
To get other bloggers to notice you, you should leave intelligent and relevant comments on the blogs that you read. By leaving good comments, you are not only inviting the bloggers to visit you, but also their readers. However don’t spam their comments section, and don’t be a sycophant or a creep.
Related to this is to reply to the comments that you get. It makes people feel warm and welcomed and they might just link to you without you even have to ask.
For a good example of how this worked out for me, read Mili describe how she stumbled onto my blog.
Be Generous With Your Link Love
The bloggers who you link to will know about you, either through the automatic trackback system or through vanity searches on Technorati. For me, it gives me a buzz and I will visit everyone who links to me. If I like your stuff, you either go on my blogroll or I would subscribe for further reading.
Don’t link expecting a link back. Be generous about it. It’s a percentage game – some will inevitably link back to you in one way or the other, either on their blogrolls or in the next post that they write. But some won’t, so don’t be bitter about it. Instead, just keep on finding great blogs to read and to link to.
Linking is a great technique if used well, but don’t be like Dave Lucas. I’m not going to link to him because I find him dubious, so go Google his ass. Why do I find him dubious? It’s because he never fails to link to or mention Xiaxue no matter how tenuous the relevance to his post subject is. Why, I do not know. Maybe the guy has yellow-fever. And what does he get for his efforts? Xiaxue has never mentioned him whatsoever. So don’t do it blatantly and without purpose because the subject of your link love will see right through it.
Hook Them In With Great Content
Before we even talk about your content, there are some prerequisites – your spelling, grammar and composition skills must be up to scratch. You gain all that by lots of reading. Blogs, magazines, novels, and even that great billboard ad that held your attention for more than 2 seconds. Notice the way the words are composed, and how the sentences flow. Some great writers are born, but most have to learn it. And luckily for the rest of us plebs, great writing is very easy to find and hence learn from. For example, check out Copyblogger.com.
Two ways to great content:
- Write kickass posts. How? If you are naturally funny, this is easy. Otherwise, identify an area of expertise that you can talk about effortlessly and write about it. Come up with an original thought, do your research, quote from someone else’s kickass post (see: giving out link love above), have a cool photo or graphic to go with it, and string it all together into one coherent piece.
Consistently writing kickass posts is hard and takes a lot of effort. Some do it better than others and almost effortlessly. I’m not one of those writers. So what I do instead is …
- Put your personal spin on it. I put a lot of my personality into my stories, and even into the newsy posts or those linking to stuff that I find interesting on the net. As a reader, I like knowing the blogger whom I’m reading. Good writers are those who put a personal spin on mundane stuff that happen to all of us. What makes us different is how we react to the same situations. Though it maybe the same shit on a different day, but if it happened to a different person in a different place it can be interesting. This is why the majority of blogs that I’ve subscribed to are personal blogs – 98 out of 132 feeds.
So don’t be afraid to “expose” yourself a little. How far you go is entirely up to you. Think of what you are comfortable telling a complete stranger without being afraid of it being repeated elsewhere, and you’ve set yourself the boundaries.
I have been lucky to be linked to by quite a few bloggers, some of whom are quite well known and I would always love to get more. And content, whether on this blog or in the comments that I’d leave on other blogs, is still king.
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My personal advice for all bloggers is, ‘Build it and they will come’. When people find you interesting they’ll add you to the blog roll.
Of course, having lots of people linking to you isn’t nec. an aim for a lot of bloggers. Some just like to write and won’t shut up [or so I've been described as!]
‘leaving compelling comments on other blogs,’
But hopefully they won’t be too compelling … after all, I don’t want to lose my nickname of ‘The Commentator’
I disagree with “build it and they will come”. You can be the greatest unknown writer but no one will find you if they don’t know where you are. So you still have to initiate the first contact – leaving comments, linking to other people.
Once you’ve got the visitors, then you make them sticky by writing the good stuff.
But it doesn’t matter to some (like me) whether they get linked anot. I link cos I like the person’s style of writing, the stories, etc. I dun ask for a link back. I just wan a link on my blog so that i dun have to remember the blog address and can just click to visit the blog wherever I am. However, sometimes I just can’t be bothered to “de-link” when I do not visit a person’s blog anymore.
Although, there are some who seeks attention or feels that blogging is an avenue for them to become a celebrity…. To me, I feel that a blog is for you to write your diary; or what you feel is interesting; or to let go of your ‘creative juices’; or simply, just for you to write whatever you want! If you write great and have regular visitors, then wonderful. If not, that’s ok too.
I was just asked AGAIN, in my comments section about why I de-linked someone. I don’t want a blogroll that is as long as the page, and I want my roll to reflect blogs that I actually do read.
I admit, it can cause some hurt feelings, and I’m sorry about that, but I want my roll to be fresh and full of great reads.
When I first started blogging, trolling other blogrolls was the way I found new blogs to read, and I hope people who click the links on mine, are happy with what they find.
An: true – as Dabido said above, each of us blog for different reasons and getting links should not be THE top priority. Although getting more links mean more traffic, which gets you more comments (if you write well) and that gets you more interaction. Which is what I see blogs as – a medium for conversation.
steph: I just went and saw that comment. Your blogroll is yours to control and you are right – you don’t want it to scroll off down the page to infinity.
Asking “why am I not on your blogroll” anymore is like asking a friend, or even an acquiantance “hey, how come you don’t hang out with me anymore?”.
I think these ppl need to hang out more in the real world and see that it happens ALL the time but ppl don’t go round asking it. They just accept it as a part of life – ppl change, fade in or fade out, or move on.
Only insecure ppl care about who likes them or not, and why.
some interesting insights abt blogging.
well, wanna ask another ques….how do u put the bubble quoting fr another blog in the post? is there like some wp plugin or sumthing like that?
bobby: hi, thanks for dropping by! The bubble quoting came with the theme that I’m using:
http://wpthemes.info/fast-track/
Maybe you can download it and see how it’s done and then hack it on your theme. Good luck!
oh ok….fast track theme….i tried it b4….but i nvr figured out how to get that quote thingie to appear on the post…
You gotta use the “blockquote” HTML tags. You should see the “b-quote” button when you write a post.
Hmmm…blogrolls. I’ve always wanted to get those done (ie. linking to blogs that I read) but was never able to find the time. Ok, I am lazy. Hahaha.
Since I’ll be linking dozens of blogs, adding the blogroll in the main page would look a little messy. I think I’ll just create a new “page” and add the blogroll there. Keeping my fingers crossed that I can get it done soon.
10/3: yeah keeping it on a separate page is good if you think that it won’t change over time, and would just increase and increase. I put mine on the front so that it forces me to manage it in a way. But I do reward my commentators with “nofollow” and the “Top commentators” thing.
thats why i removed the blogroll from my blog and just leave it in my bloglines.
and you’re in my bloglines. heh.
nadnut: ah good idea – ppl won’t ask you why or why not they are or are not on your Blogroll. And thanks for being a subscriber! I subscribe to you too!
no worries. btw which part of aus are u in now? ill be in perth in july!
Perth lah! I thought I have been obvious about it. Heheh. If you need someone to show you the nightlife, I volunteer! Well, shoot me an email closer to the day.
oops. :X
hmmm, thing is ill be there on a study tour trip. maybe ill grab ur number and if i get some free time, will drag u out as a guide? heh.
Mooiness says: Have shot you an email!
This is so true. I have to admit, when I first blogged, I was comment-hungry. I want people to comment and all. But yea, soon I realized that I need to do the same on other people’s blog first.
I only subscribe to a blog if it has a good, enjoyable content (and I assure you Mooi, yours is one
), so it’s only fair that I’ve got to have a good, enjoyable content before I expect people to read my blog. That’s the world of blogging
Marcus – You don’t need to initiate contact. A lot of people land on blogs via google etc. Like I said, ‘Build it and they’ll come’ because if they’re googling for it, they’re most likely got a similar interest and as such ‘might’ stay if the person writes.
You can comment forever on some peoples blogs but they’ll never link you as they either aren’t interested in you or the blog … but, those coming in from searches are more likely to have a similar interest.
PLUS, too many people expect a ‘return linking’ [which is what you've posted about], and those sorts of links aren’t worth much, as the person might link you, but they may not read you …
What you’ve said about conversation though I think is the fun thing about blogs. You can have good dialogs spring up, and not necessarily with the owner of the blog. The fun thing is entire threads can be created by the readers.
@ Indra: exactly, you have to show an interest in other ppl first. Otherwise how would they even know of you? thanks for being a subscriber! you are on my list of feeds too.
@ Dabido: once again I have to disagree. You have to initiate, especially when you are starting out. No blog exists in a vacuum unless that is your intention. Giving out links and commenting is a form of advertising for you as a blogger. Read the #1 tip here:
http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/06/07/5-uncommon-ways-to-market-your-blog/
I never said to comment and expect ppl to visit or comment back – your comment has to be articulate, relevant and interesting, to get you reciprocal visitors from the blog which you have commented on. Whether or not they comment or link you back comes back to how well you write on your blog, as well as in the comments.
If you get linked by a popular blog, even if they don’t read you as often, their visitors do explore the blogroll – I have many indirect visitors that way.
Google should never be your only source of visitors. I doubt that all your current readers stumbled onto you via Google, did they? I wouldn’t have known about you if you never commented here.
However if you are content with your circle of readers, then yeah stay put wherever you are – don’t comment, and don’t link out. That is your prerogative.
Very handy user’s guide there, Mooiness. Succinct description of this aspect of blog etiquette. Blogroll linking can be prid quo quo but not in an obsessive way. A bit like acquaintanceship: you drift along and drift away from some and towards others and not always as the result of a value judgment. Which reminds me: must update my blogroll!
Lad Litter: yes, acquaintanceship is how I’d describe it too. You have a core base of “friends” and the rest are “acquiantances” and these drift in and out, just like in real life.
Again, either I am easily pleased or you are insanely talented, I am blown away by your knowledge of the whole blog world. Thanks for this informative post. I am still a toddler in the realm of blogging and I’m wondering why the heck I even started sometimes, but I keep telling myself it is for my kids, to keep a journal, but it is actually turning into show-off purposes and voyeurism. Not that I mind either of those. Both are better than folding laundry. You are quite the educator. Speaking of linking, can I link you? I think my readers would enjoy your commentary.
Julie: once again, thanks for liking my post. And I think that it’s great that you are keeping a real “living” journal with pictures and videos for your kids. We are after all, the first generation to be able to do that.
As for the show-offism, well all of us have egos to feed. Heh.
And yeah link away! No need to ask!